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  • Idiots to ally, absolutely.

    To feign interest for a little while, string along and squeeze some hard facts out of, I say go for it.

    Elon has to believe that scorched earth is the only way to "save" his companies and he needs to be convinced it's worth doing.

    Nothing he's done so far can't be walked back.


    Now in terms of a third party challenger in the US, literally everyone is begging for a third party. Obama was Hope & Change. Trump was an Outsider. People are not happy with their choices in government. At the moment however you've still got to work within the party's we have, which sucks.

    Also, to be clear, I think Obama was an excellent progressive step forward. I think Trump is a horrible conservative leap backwards. Biden v Trump was the only election in recent history where the majority said, "Oh shit, please put an adult in charge again", a message which disappeared and gave us Trump's second term.

  • I do agree it makes a very public attachment to Trump. However she was already nicknamed "Lady Trump" so she was already pretty attached.

    Either way we agree that the pardon is a terrible act and the crime, which should not have been pardoned, was also a terrible act.

  • That's my point, unless he is aware of additional crimes Trump has nothing on this woman. She was convicted of a crime, it happened, that doesn't go away. What goes away is the punishment.

    Additionally the pardon power is absolute, even Trump knows that as he's been bitching about being unable to do anything after Biden preemptively pardoned a handful of people.

    Now if you could uncover some type of quid pro quo for this pardon that would be a new crime and you could get both of them on that (possibly). Although I'm think technically Trump could sell pardons and that would be legal. It would be abhorrent. It would be unethical. But it would legal. (Although hopefully he would be impeached, but that's also a separate process.)

  • Trump gave her a pardon, how is she fucked if he goes away?

    Now looking at her past she's done plenty of other terrible things, and after this she'll likely continue to do terrible things. So it won't be long until she needs another pardon for a new crime (or the uncovering of an existing crime).

    She was also already a Trump loyalist.

    So this is less a "bribe" and more a "reward".